i posted a topic a little while ago about a lady with an overstocked tamk with no heater and filter,she gave 4 of them to someone i know and he brought them down after he got them so i could possibly sex them,i immediately said that one fish was not a con but was obviously breeding with a con because the tree babies looked like the unknown cichlid with convict stripes,i no lomger talk to this lady at all so i cant tell her its not good but i hate hows shes even giving these things away to people and trying to say they are cons.