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Sick Cory
« on: November 13, 2007, 02:23:15 PM »
I've just noticed one of my Corydoras is looking a bit worse for wear. Any ideas what this is and how to treat?
220ltr Central American River:
Sajica (t-bar) Cichlid breeding pair; 1xConvict (male); 2xPim Pictus

200ltr Amazonian Pool:
Chocolate Cichlid breeding pair; 12xCorydoras(Sterbai, Loxozonus, Tritineatus, Aeneus);1xFiremouth Cichlid;1xPterygoplichthys Gibbiceps;1xmale LDA08.

150ltr Lake Tanganyika (mid range):
4xCyprichromis Leptosoma; 3xNeolamprologus Leleupi; 2xSynodontis Multipunctus; 2xAltolamprologus Calvus(black); 1xJulidochromis Transcriptus.

100ltr Planted Tank:
15xFresh Water Shrimp (5xCardina sp. Babauti; 10xJaponica);5xOtocinclus;5xThreadfin Rainbowfish (Iriatherina Werneri);3xForktail Blue-Eye Rainbowfish (Pseudomugil furcatus);3xCelebes Rainbowfish;5xEmerald Eye Rasbora;4xKhuli Loach;6xPeacock Goby;1xSiamese Algae Eater.

55ltr SE Asian planted nano:
1xFurcata Rainbow fish (adult male);2xBotia Striata;1xfemale LDA08.

55ltr S American nano:
Breeding Royal Tetras;4XLDA08.

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Re: Sick Cory
« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2007, 08:40:25 AM »
Its a little hard to tell from the pic, but are they little bubble-like lumps on the base of the dorsal fin?

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Re: Sick Cory
« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2007, 09:52:07 AM »
Any ideas what this is and how to treat?

Vern:

No ideas as to what "this is" but

if it were my cory and based on the photograph I would forget the salt regimen and commence dosing with Melafix and Pimafix.

TR

(Vern:  Bear in mind that I only have sterbai which are very, very hardy fish and have survived all of my "adventures in fish keeping").

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Re: Sick Cory
« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2007, 11:19:59 AM »
Its a little hard to tell from the pic, but are they little bubble-like lumps on the base of the dorsal fin?

Yes, sort of. But only on the one side which has developed a patch that between the dorsal fin and lateral line.  My first impression was that the skin was eroding away but this may be either an ulcer of some description or fungus.  This Cory has never had a full dorsal fin as far as I'm aware.  I purchased him as a juve years ago and noticed part of his dorsal was missing and the area that now looks infected was an odd pattern, which I had assumed was a battle scar.  The fin never grew back and the patch became what you see in the pic. This growth doesn't appear to have been passed on to his tank mates it the process though.

Melafix is a good option but I'm concerned for his tanks mates (apistos, tetras and 6xlarge rainbow fry) and the affect it may have on them.
220ltr Central American River:
Sajica (t-bar) Cichlid breeding pair; 1xConvict (male); 2xPim Pictus

200ltr Amazonian Pool:
Chocolate Cichlid breeding pair; 12xCorydoras(Sterbai, Loxozonus, Tritineatus, Aeneus);1xFiremouth Cichlid;1xPterygoplichthys Gibbiceps;1xmale LDA08.

150ltr Lake Tanganyika (mid range):
4xCyprichromis Leptosoma; 3xNeolamprologus Leleupi; 2xSynodontis Multipunctus; 2xAltolamprologus Calvus(black); 1xJulidochromis Transcriptus.

100ltr Planted Tank:
15xFresh Water Shrimp (5xCardina sp. Babauti; 10xJaponica);5xOtocinclus;5xThreadfin Rainbowfish (Iriatherina Werneri);3xForktail Blue-Eye Rainbowfish (Pseudomugil furcatus);3xCelebes Rainbowfish;5xEmerald Eye Rasbora;4xKhuli Loach;6xPeacock Goby;1xSiamese Algae Eater.

55ltr SE Asian planted nano:
1xFurcata Rainbow fish (adult male);2xBotia Striata;1xfemale LDA08.

55ltr S American nano:
Breeding Royal Tetras;4XLDA08.

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Re: Sick Cory
« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2007, 12:26:52 PM »
The first thing I thought of when I saw it was Gas Bubble Disease, which I've seen in a number of Corys in about the same area that yours is affected in.

http://badmanstropicalfish.com/meds/gas_bubble.html


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Re: Sick Cory
« Reply #5 on: November 14, 2007, 12:57:15 PM »
It looks very similar Tracey but these are white as opposed to translucent like the ones in your photo.

Although a bit blurred you can see the protrusion from this angle.  You can also notice an opaque blotching on parts of it's body.  I was thinking, maybe, velvet?  :-\
« Last Edit: November 14, 2007, 01:19:57 PM by Vern »
220ltr Central American River:
Sajica (t-bar) Cichlid breeding pair; 1xConvict (male); 2xPim Pictus

200ltr Amazonian Pool:
Chocolate Cichlid breeding pair; 12xCorydoras(Sterbai, Loxozonus, Tritineatus, Aeneus);1xFiremouth Cichlid;1xPterygoplichthys Gibbiceps;1xmale LDA08.

150ltr Lake Tanganyika (mid range):
4xCyprichromis Leptosoma; 3xNeolamprologus Leleupi; 2xSynodontis Multipunctus; 2xAltolamprologus Calvus(black); 1xJulidochromis Transcriptus.

100ltr Planted Tank:
15xFresh Water Shrimp (5xCardina sp. Babauti; 10xJaponica);5xOtocinclus;5xThreadfin Rainbowfish (Iriatherina Werneri);3xForktail Blue-Eye Rainbowfish (Pseudomugil furcatus);3xCelebes Rainbowfish;5xEmerald Eye Rasbora;4xKhuli Loach;6xPeacock Goby;1xSiamese Algae Eater.

55ltr SE Asian planted nano:
1xFurcata Rainbow fish (adult male);2xBotia Striata;1xfemale LDA08.

55ltr S American nano:
Breeding Royal Tetras;4XLDA08.

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Re: Sick Cory
« Reply #6 on: November 14, 2007, 08:09:59 PM »
I don't believe it's Velvet  :(  That shows up as golden to rusty coloured flakes covering the skin.  I'm not convinced it is Gas Bubble Disease as I first thought either, given what you said about the lumps being white not translucent.  It could be a fungus of some kind, mabye the injury early in life has left an area that is more susceptible to fungal infections than usual.

Treatment depends on whether you want to use meds or go natural.  Malachite Green is the most common medication used for fungus or a Pimafix/Melafix combination if you want to go natural.

It could also be the start of Lymphocystis  :-\  Do you know if he's been exposed to other fish with Lympho at any point before you got him?


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Re: Sick Cory
« Reply #7 on: November 14, 2007, 09:09:12 PM »
Looks like fungus to me and I would go malachite green and meth blue.

Lymphocytosis - cauliflower like growths, incurable, lies dormant in all fish and bought about by stress i.e. poor water - resolves when stressor removed.  I dont think it is this and, come to think of it, have never heard of it occurring in corys.

Good luck - he looks worth saving!

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Re: Sick Cory
« Reply #8 on: November 22, 2007, 10:50:56 AM »
I've isolated him now and noticed his gills are badly eroded too. I'm currently giving him a dose of Melafix.
220ltr Central American River:
Sajica (t-bar) Cichlid breeding pair; 1xConvict (male); 2xPim Pictus

200ltr Amazonian Pool:
Chocolate Cichlid breeding pair; 12xCorydoras(Sterbai, Loxozonus, Tritineatus, Aeneus);1xFiremouth Cichlid;1xPterygoplichthys Gibbiceps;1xmale LDA08.

150ltr Lake Tanganyika (mid range):
4xCyprichromis Leptosoma; 3xNeolamprologus Leleupi; 2xSynodontis Multipunctus; 2xAltolamprologus Calvus(black); 1xJulidochromis Transcriptus.

100ltr Planted Tank:
15xFresh Water Shrimp (5xCardina sp. Babauti; 10xJaponica);5xOtocinclus;5xThreadfin Rainbowfish (Iriatherina Werneri);3xForktail Blue-Eye Rainbowfish (Pseudomugil furcatus);3xCelebes Rainbowfish;5xEmerald Eye Rasbora;4xKhuli Loach;6xPeacock Goby;1xSiamese Algae Eater.

55ltr SE Asian planted nano:
1xFurcata Rainbow fish (adult male);2xBotia Striata;1xfemale LDA08.

55ltr S American nano:
Breeding Royal Tetras;4XLDA08.

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Re: Sick Cory
« Reply #9 on: November 22, 2007, 07:05:05 PM »
Eroded or nipped?

If eroded I would use some malachite green or meth blue asap personally

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Re: Sick Cory
« Reply #10 on: November 23, 2007, 04:47:01 AM »
definitely eroded, as with the caudal and dorsal fins.  Should I discontinue with Melafix then?
220ltr Central American River:
Sajica (t-bar) Cichlid breeding pair; 1xConvict (male); 2xPim Pictus

200ltr Amazonian Pool:
Chocolate Cichlid breeding pair; 12xCorydoras(Sterbai, Loxozonus, Tritineatus, Aeneus);1xFiremouth Cichlid;1xPterygoplichthys Gibbiceps;1xmale LDA08.

150ltr Lake Tanganyika (mid range):
4xCyprichromis Leptosoma; 3xNeolamprologus Leleupi; 2xSynodontis Multipunctus; 2xAltolamprologus Calvus(black); 1xJulidochromis Transcriptus.

100ltr Planted Tank:
15xFresh Water Shrimp (5xCardina sp. Babauti; 10xJaponica);5xOtocinclus;5xThreadfin Rainbowfish (Iriatherina Werneri);3xForktail Blue-Eye Rainbowfish (Pseudomugil furcatus);3xCelebes Rainbowfish;5xEmerald Eye Rasbora;4xKhuli Loach;6xPeacock Goby;1xSiamese Algae Eater.

55ltr SE Asian planted nano:
1xFurcata Rainbow fish (adult male);2xBotia Striata;1xfemale LDA08.

55ltr S American nano:
Breeding Royal Tetras;4XLDA08.

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Re: Sick Cory
« Reply #11 on: November 23, 2007, 09:41:23 AM »
you can use melafix along with the other medications i believe  O0

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Re: Sick Cory
« Reply #12 on: November 23, 2007, 12:05:56 PM »
The fin and gill erosion makes me wonder if this is bacterial, which Malachite Green and Methylene Blue will not treat.  You might be better to look at Erythromycin or Tetracycline as anti-bacterials.

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Re: Sick Cory
« Reply #13 on: November 24, 2007, 01:57:29 AM »
U can still use melafix but I wouldnt bother if u are going with the blue or green.

I hear what Tracey  :love: is saying with her suspicions about it being bacterial but my gut is telling me differently.

Is the cory well enough that were the wrong treatment initiated first it would survive and be healthy enough for the other?


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Re: Sick Cory
« Reply #14 on: November 24, 2007, 02:32:20 AM »

Is the cory well enough that were the wrong treatment initiated first it would survive and be healthy enough for the other?


he's looking spritely enough although has been carrying symptoms for quite a while now.
220ltr Central American River:
Sajica (t-bar) Cichlid breeding pair; 1xConvict (male); 2xPim Pictus

200ltr Amazonian Pool:
Chocolate Cichlid breeding pair; 12xCorydoras(Sterbai, Loxozonus, Tritineatus, Aeneus);1xFiremouth Cichlid;1xPterygoplichthys Gibbiceps;1xmale LDA08.

150ltr Lake Tanganyika (mid range):
4xCyprichromis Leptosoma; 3xNeolamprologus Leleupi; 2xSynodontis Multipunctus; 2xAltolamprologus Calvus(black); 1xJulidochromis Transcriptus.

100ltr Planted Tank:
15xFresh Water Shrimp (5xCardina sp. Babauti; 10xJaponica);5xOtocinclus;5xThreadfin Rainbowfish (Iriatherina Werneri);3xForktail Blue-Eye Rainbowfish (Pseudomugil furcatus);3xCelebes Rainbowfish;5xEmerald Eye Rasbora;4xKhuli Loach;6xPeacock Goby;1xSiamese Algae Eater.

55ltr SE Asian planted nano:
1xFurcata Rainbow fish (adult male);2xBotia Striata;1xfemale LDA08.

55ltr S American nano:
Breeding Royal Tetras;4XLDA08.