Topic: how much more can I have any more fish

[wayne]

Ok I just want to add 1 more fish in to my 130 tank the fish that I would like to add is a red terror if I can or just let me know if I have to many of them in there now thanks

 The fish that I have now is
1 green terror
1 jack dempsey
1 bluebarry oscar
2 jewel cichlid
1 Pleco
1 unknown fish I will post a pic of him cuz I wood like to know what he is

Thanks again for your comments

[Ezekial]

To give you a simple answer to your question.....No. 

You're pretty full as it is now with the GT, JD, and O and if the Jewel's happen to be a mated pair and happen to mate you are going to have quite a bit of trouble. 

RT's get quite large and are quite nasty and wouldn't do well with the group you have.  And this isn't even considering the "mystery" fish you have.

A couple of other points for you:

1.  What kind of pleco do you have?  Some commons can get quite large, upwards of 24" long

2.  Blueberry Oscars do not occur naturally.  They are a regular oscar dyed to get that color.  The dyeing process is often quite stressful and the process alone kills many fish.  Those that survive are often left weakened by it and their life span is dramitically shortened.  A normal O can live 10-20 years, you'll be lucky to get 2 out of yours, I'd count on 6-12 months.  If that isn't bad enough for a fish you probably paid decent money for the color which drew you to him will gradually seep out of your O leaving you with a pale, greyish, sickly looking fish in about 6 months.

You should have this information so you know what to expect.  If I were you i'd take the fish back and demand your money back. 

[wayne]

Ok that's I will do that and if I do sell him back to the place that I got him would the lemon o do the same thing or what are some of the other things that I could do in the tank thanks again

[btate617]

Joe pretty much covered it. Also like he said if those jewels breed you can count on them picking on the other fish, even if the others are twice as big, and possibly to the point of death.

If you throw in a Festae, I would count on once it grows you are going to have a nice 130gal tank with one well feed Festae. They are a great fish, but not for the type of tank you are going for. Not much is going to be able to get out of the way of an unhappy Festae, just my opinion.

Brian

[btate617]

And if you get up a pic of the unknown fish we can help you it.

[wayne]

If I was 2 get the fetae how could I keep him happy so he dnt go after the other fish and could I get him a lil bit smaller than the other fish in the tank makin him the lil fish in the tank and is there any other foods that I can feed them they get the cichlid gold rite now thanks again guys

[Stormbringer]

you wouldnt be able to its in their nature to be like that 

[wayne]

Oh and I have these in there 2

 3 blue crayfish
 2 crabs

[Ezekial]

The crayfish and crabs will likely get eaten by the cichlids eventually. 

Festae's are nasty, hence the common name Red Terror.  There are lots of things you can do early on to curb aggression but the problem is they won't last.  Once your Festae grows and matures he will decide to take out tankmates. 

Lemon O's are not dyed to my knowledge but i've never actually seen one either so I'll let someone else chime in on that. 

[wayne]

Yea if they do than they I have a friend that all they do is meet in his so I can get them for free is there any other fish that wood go good in the tank just would like to have it full or as many as I can thanks a lot srry for all the ?'s

[Ezekial]

No problem about the questions.  That's why we are here. 

would like to have it full or as many as I can

I'm going to assume by this statement your fish are all pretty small yet, correct?  If so, relax, all the fish you've listed grow quite large and in a year or two that empty looking tank won't look so empty after all 

Assuming you replace your Blueberry O with a normal O then I'd say you are pretty well stocked and wouldn't suggest any more cichlids.  Personally I'd try to rehouse one of the Jewel's at least, just to avoid any possibility of breeding.  You could add some dither/schooling fish, possibly a school of SD's, some giant danio's, or some rainbowfish.  That or some schooling bottom feeders, pictus cats are good with cichlids from my understanding.  Some of this will depend on what your mystery fish is and what type of pleco you have. 

Can you post some pics?

[wayne]

Yes I will rehouse bluebarry bs 2 a friend sayed that he wood take him and I'm thinkin about getin a diff. 1 the 1 like in joe's pic I saw they along time ago and now I have a chance to get 1

[btate617]

1 green terror
Males will get to 8" +

1 jack dempsey
Males will get to 9-10"

2 jewel cichlid
Around 4-5"

You probably know how big an oscar will get.

And you have an unknown fish mixed in there.

Although they may be small now, as you can see in 6-12 months you are going to have a pretty full tank.

Also just in case you don't know the jewels are African cichlids while the others are not. Some people say don't mix them at all, I believe it can be done in some situations, however they do have different water requirements.

Brian

[Ezekial]

Also just in case you don't know the jewels are African cichlids while the others are not. Some people say don't mix them at all, I believe it can be done in some situations, however they do have different water requirements.

Generally this is accurate but Jewels are the exception to the rule.  Unlike the other african cichlids, Jewels are river dwellers and have water requirements that are similar to American cichlids.  They are the one African cichlid which apparently adapts quite well to living with American cichlids.   

[btate617]

Also just in case you don't know the jewels are African cichlids while the others are not. Some people say don't mix them at all, I believe it can be done in some situations, however they do have different water requirements.

Generally this is accurate but Jewels are the exception to the rule.  Unlike the other african cichlids, Jewels are river dwellers and have water requirements that are similar to American cichlids.  They are the one African cichlid which apparently adapts quite well to living with American cichlids.   

Yep I was just trying to let him know in case he didn't, as lots of people just starting out and some who have been in the hobby for awhile don't know the difference.
That's why I said it can be done in some situations.
I myself wouldn't keep the jewels in a mixed tank, I have spawned them a few times, and I think they are a pretty nasty fish. The ones I had were up there with some of the Centrals I have kept.