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Offline owen416

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Red devil
« on: January 09, 2010, 12:47:45 PM »
   Water cycle- safe ammoia level o.o to o,4 ?
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Re: Red devil
« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2010, 12:55:21 PM »
You should have no readings on ammonia... Is the goal.
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Re: Red devil
« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2010, 06:17:15 AM »

  Hi, yes I see than .03 is a caution level but I still need to push to get it down .  Wow you guys were not kidding .
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Re: Red devil
« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2010, 09:44:34 AM »
Quote from: owen416 on January 10, 2010, 06:17:15 AM
Wow you guys were not kidding .


about what, this post is a bit vague on what you want to know
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Re: Red devil
« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2010, 07:58:13 PM »

  Best way to maintain 0.0 ammonia level ?   I have a ex whisper filter 70 gal.  MAYBE ANOTHER -filter will help ?  No place to keep other fish in 55gal. left a post of my pics. on photo form    Gerry..
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Re: Red devil
« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2010, 08:51:03 PM »
sounds like your under filtered if ammonia is not fully being converted.
With HOB (hang on back) filtration you want the filter flow rate to be tank vol x 10
With Canister you want it to be tank vol x 5

Sorry bud, can't remember every post I read between the different forums
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Re: Red devil
« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2010, 06:48:26 AM »

 OK, then Think I'm going to get a Marineland Magnum 350 Dual Purpose canister Filter cycles 350gph that should do it .  There on sale at PETCO for $129.00 regular $154.00 .  Thanks for info Gerry
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Re: Red devil
« Reply #7 on: January 13, 2010, 09:50:35 AM »
Looks like you've had your question answered but you really want 0.0 Ammonia and that is done with appropriate filtration and enough bio media in that filtration.   O0
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Re: Red devil
« Reply #8 on: January 13, 2010, 01:15:54 PM »

  Hey JOE I know what filter system I'm going to use .  I wasn't sure what you meant about bio media filtration so I researched it .  Now I understand .  How do you know when you have enough bio-media ?  If I need extra i can use Bio-Balls Coralife for more .  I just have to order some .  Is it Bio media x gals of value .
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Re: Red devil
« Reply #9 on: January 13, 2010, 02:25:58 PM »
The more media the less flow is required, that's why canisters and sumps need less flow as they contain a lot more bio media.

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Re: Red devil
« Reply #10 on: January 13, 2010, 03:04:16 PM »
Quote from: Gerry on January 13, 2010, 02:25:58 PM
The more media the less flow is required, that's why canisters and sumps need less flow as they contain a lot more bio media.


  OK,  Its making sense now so that should take care of my problem for fertilization of ammonia .  Now for my Red devil I just can hope for the best or get a bigger tank.  Thanks that helps me allot .
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Re: Red devil
« Reply #11 on: January 13, 2010, 03:11:19 PM »

    Sorry don't know what I was thinking ( filtration of ammonia )
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Re: Red devil
« Reply #12 on: January 15, 2010, 09:43:51 AM »
IMO you should get a bigger tank. I don't think hoping for the best will do. They are extremely agressive. Lets see what others think ???
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Re: Red devil
« Reply #13 on: January 16, 2010, 06:15:38 AM »
   RD's can be known to be pretty horrible in any size tank. Never kept them myself but Know three people who do and each one has moved their RD to it's own tank, kinda says something.
As for ammonia, sounds like you have it sorted with over filtration, but live plants are a good help.
Carbon is a chemical remover also.  :) 
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Re: Red devil
« Reply #14 on: January 16, 2010, 06:44:06 AM »
carbon doesnt remove ammonnia nitrite or nitrates and i use the space taken up by the carbon for more bio media but i do keep some on hand in case anything nasty gets in the tank chemichal wise
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