I've had the rams for a year now. The female is actually getting old I think. The male is great, but I'm not too sure about the female. She doesn't swim anymore. No I dont think its an ilness. I think that just from age and so many spawns something happened to her. She sill eats and is doing just fine, but cannot get off the bottom of the tank. Since she seems healthy, except for not being able to get off the bottom) I do not want to euthenise her yet. She cant get around on the bottom of the tank just fine and has a nice little place to sit and she eats well.